Guide to FISA
Brett Dobbs says: "I found this the most useful guide to explain what has gone on with FISA. With flowcharts!"
1. It Eliminates the requirement that there be probable cause that a foreign target is a suspect of any kind — terrorist, criminal, ore “foreign agent.” They merely need be your French grandmother, as long as they are outside the United States and not a U.S. person, and if the government says wiretapping them is for the purpose of collecting “foreign intelligence information” (e.g., her Pommes Frites recipe)Understanding Recent Changes to FISA — A Visual Guide (Flowchart) (Ketchup and Caviar)2. It requires the cooperation of telecoms in these efforts
3. It eliminates of the need to specify a particular email address or phone number to be wiretapped
4. 1-3 together imply that certifications of wiretapping on individuals is not the issue. The point is to use telecom cooperation to target large collections of data on communications between U.S. Persons and foreigners. This implies data mining — where, for instance, because a foreign target has communications passing through a given domestic switch, any communications (domestic or international) passing through that switch are subject to collection, analysis, and storage. There are “minimization requirements” meant to ameliorate this, but it is unclear if they really help.
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wow, these regulations are getting ridiculous. Anyone feel like making a how-to that can make communications reasonably secure? ie. email, skype, IMs (clearly there isnt much i can do to protect my phone number from wiretapping). does torrifying these programs solve that problem? Not that I'm one for conspiracy theories or anything, but i feel like i should secure my communications out of principle with legislation like this.
#5: Cory posted a story to start a thread about this, when the legislation passed. The are many cryptology and general security tips in the comments -- search for it in the archives.
The question with vacuum cleaner surveillance which has been around in beta forms since the early '00s for email at least. Is when can they for sure trace it down to an single user. For example, if I say the opposite of I don't want to treason in an unencrypted channel and I fit a mass warrant regex, do they have the technology to find me and take me on an "extraordinary" vacation!?
Please contact/post if you have any personal experience. :-)
PS my pgp key is on my blog n stuff if you wanna do it in secret...
"Finally a forum where I can apologize to the loved ones of the victims of 9/11...your government failed you, those entrusted with protecting you failed you and I failed you. We tried hard, but that doesn't matter because we failed." - Richard A. Clarke
Desperation (not just infrastructure collapsing) makes for strange bedfellows ... and then there's "Inquiring Minds Want To Know".
And hey, it's got real "economic growth potential"! Are there college degrees in "watching surveillance videos" yet?
We're so fucked.
And I thought FISA was some Verizon cable thing. I guess the Nazi's won after all.
My wife is from Thailand, so I guess when she writes email and calls home we could be "turned on" to be listened to permanently with no oversight. Thanks Obama, good vote.
so, according to this chart, America is at war with all the world. Is this a good idea?
Taking a note from corporations with their incomprehensible pricing schemes ... upon you I cast a Spell of Befuddlement!
The most ridiculous thing is that have not and will not get any real terrorists this way. In a day, you can pretty much figure out ways of assuring any transmitted content won't be cracked in our lifetime and you can be the real bad guys know this. So just like Aldrich Ames, the most damaging mole in American intelligence history was cleared because he "passed 3 polygraph tests," this stuff diverts resources and gives false confidence. We can not defend our way out of this. We go and get intell in the bad countries likfe Afghanistan and Pakistan, and we go get them whether or not they want us to. Perhaps Obama can do this since he won't be hated in most countries the brainless bush league is. Our stupidity is vast.
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Aside from the raping of our Constitution, What are the numbers on this. How many Billions have we spent so far on monitoring gazillions of calls? How many arrests? How many foiled plots? I can't recall hearing of any.
Well duh, we haven't heard of any because our super-badass security has scared all the bad guys off of even trying anything! The lack of any danger is proof positive that our security measures are both effective and essential.
I suppose we could increase our own security with encryption. And with bots, which are semi-autonomous and adaptive. We're already there, of course, but they are not being used to scrub the internet clean or protect our packets of data. If that sort of thing really took off all it would accomplish would be an internet whose entire bandwidth is used for cyber warfare, an all out info war where the most aggressive “agents” win. And unless we have a Neo out there, the most aggressive agents are designed not by spammers, but by government emps. Living in this civilization will require a diminished level of privacy. That is the most logical extension of where our technology is headed. Any technology that can be designed to make your life more private can be countered. I'm ready to bow before my AI gods.
Do we really have this big of a problem with terrorists?
hopefully not after the election
Here, disregarding the rule of law results in the end of privacy for U.S. citizens and a government that is not accountable to it's people.
Furthermore, because the government's conduct is secret and not subject to review by a court or the electorate, incompetence in government cannot be corrected by the electorate.
The above description of FISA by Mr. Dobbs is one more example of a dysfunctional government that produces failed wars, financial markets and environmental decline.
@ # 18 zikzak
Yes, and I have been defending this planet from major meteor strikes for 35 years now. Every human owes me a one-time payment of $78.37. There will be a nominal additional charge for currency conversion.